Joe Rogan Experience #2357 - Sarko Gergerian

Summary

In this episode, Sarko Gergerian discusses his work in law enforcement and mental health, focusing on the benefits of psychedelic self-care. As a founding member of the CLEAR initiative, he advocates for innovative approaches to recovery and community policing. Gergerian emphasizes the importance of personal responsibility in mental health treatment and recovery.

Key takeaways

• 1Sarko Gergerian: Law enforcement professional and mental health counselor advocating for psychedelic self-care.
• 2CLEAR: Community and Law Enforcement Assisted Recovery, a methodology for recovery-oriented community policing.
• 3The concept of psychedelic self-care as a tool for mental health improvement.
• 4Gergerian's personal perspective, distinct from organizational beliefs.

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Transcript excerpt

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. What's up, Sar? How are you? Hey, how are you, Joe? Good to see you. Oh, it's great to see you. It's great to be here, man. How did you uh meet Paul? So, Paul Stamuts Yeah. introduced me to you. So, how did you meet Paul? Yeah. Um, so I was aware of Paul for quite some time. Um and this past psychedelic science um I was shadowing uh people and uh work working to help the people that went to the conference feel safe just because of like the the nature of the uh environment that that that we're in now. In what way? Um you know like so psychedelic science had um a lot of uh Jewish practitioners. They had invited Palestinian practitioners in. There was Arab practitioners there. So there was a lot of um um education around sensitive topics happening, you know, and um I was invited in uh just to be available to help people feel secure. What were they worried about? Um yeah. Uh any protests building up um just because there was Jewish people and Palestinian people? Well, you know, the nature of the environment, right? There's like wars going on across But this is a psychedelic conference, right? This is a psychedelic conference. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and they're worried about protests breaking out at psychedelic conferences, possible protests, possible people getting overwhelmed with emotion. Um, you know, cuz in psychedelic science 2023, there was a situation where when Dick Rick Doblin was on stage, um, a group came in and disrupted his presentation and they were allowed on stage to speak. Oh boy. Right. ...

Excerpt from The Joe Rogan Experience, Jul 30, 2025. Rights remain with the original creators. Hear the full episode at the source.