Joe Rogan Experience #2385 - Rick Strassman

Summary

Rick Strassman, a noted psychiatrist, delves into the intersections of trauma, psychedelics, and spiritual growth in his latest work. He shares insights from his extensive research on altered states of consciousness. This conversation highlights how such experiences can lead to profound personal transformations.

Key takeaways

• 1Rick Strassman is a Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the University of New Mexico.
• 2Author of 2024's book 'My Altered States: A Doctor's Extraordinary Account of Trauma, Psychedelics, and Spiritual Growth'.
• 3Strassman conducts research on psychedelics and their effects on consciousness.
• 4Discussion on the therapeutic potential of psychedelics in treating trauma.

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Transcript excerpt

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. Oh, so this is a book I wrote 11 years ago. This prophecy. I haven't gotten that one before. Yeah. It compares Well, let's see. Are we gonna Yeah, we're Yeah. Yeah. It compares It compares the DMT state to the state of prophecy in the Hebrew Bible. Do you think they're the same thing? Well, the phenomenology is pretty similar. Like if you read chapter one of Ezekiel, there's um flames and there's angels and there's wings and there's eyes on the back of wings and there's roaring sound and uh blue ice above the person. He flies through space. Yeah. Quite quite psychedelic. Yeah. Wheel within a wheel. Like the the description of the things that people Usually they try to say that it's some sort of a UAP. That's a that's the common thing that people like to say, right? Uh well, it could be, which also might be connected. It could be a DMT vision, though. Oh, easily. Yeah. Well, you know, the guys out of Jerusalem that think that the whole burning bush thing was DMT. Yeah. Um Well, that was the first theophony of Moses. Yeah. First time he had a a prophetic experience. Yeah. And I mean, it's like that's what it is. It's literally a plant that has high levels of DMT and if you burned it and smoked it. It's kind of crazy that that's the way it comes that it I mean, this is it's I just re and I I really applaud you for learning ancient Hebrew so you could go back and read it in the the original tongue, which is really fascinating. ...

Excerpt from The Joe Rogan Experience, Sep 26, 2025. Rights remain with the original creators. Hear the full episode at the source.