When the Veil Failed

Summary

Hosts Cam Hale and Kyle Filson read listener-submitted encounters ranging from an antlered 'not deer' that whispered at two boys by an Oregon river to four tiny, ancient-looking humanoids dragging a dead rabbit through the Arkansas woods. A Marine describes a silent black craft over Fallujah that was visible only through night vision goggles, and another listener recalls a six-foot grasshopper-like being in a tuxedo and top hat knocking at his trailer door in 1980. The recurring theme is the moment the 'veil' slips, when witnesses see things that apparently were never meant to be seen.

Key takeaways

• 1An Oregon listener camping near the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs land saw an antlered, bipedal creature with milky eyes cross a river and whisper 'help you'. His friend's grandfather had warned never to speak to such things.
• 2A Marine in Fallujah in the mid-2000s reports a silent, solid black craft, about the size of two Humvees, hovering 20 feet above the command post. It was visible only through night vision goggles and he compared it to the Batplane from The Dark Knight Rises.
• 3A teen took a moon-shaped rock and an odd feather from hunting land near Golconda, Illinois, and later reported poltergeist activity, a mimicking shadow figure, and nausea.
• 4A 1970s Arkansas hunter saw four two-foot, gnome-like humanoids hauling a rabbit. The next morning his lost bag appeared on the porch with a fresh rabbit's foot inside. The hosts compare the beings to a 'brownie'.
• 5A June 9, 1980 encounter in Amsterdam, New York, involved a grasshopper-like being in a tuxedo, top hat and cane, followed by missing time. The witness linked it to the tuxedoed alien in the film 'Communion'.
• 6A pale, hairless 'crawler' with backward-bending knees and interlocking teeth charged two people in Huntington, West Virginia, in July 2008, then fled when one stood up. The hosts compare crawlers to black-eyed kids and tulpas.

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Excerpt from Expanded Perspectives, Sep 25, 2026. Rights remain with the original creators. Hear the full episode at the source.