Need To Know SCIF - The Tic Tac

Summary

In this debut episode of Need to Know SCIF, award-winning journalist Bryce Zabel leads a roundtable discussion on the controversial claims surrounding the Tic Tac UFO. Guests Jason Guillemette, Ryan Robbins, and Tyler Stevens unpack the idea that this UFO may be an advanced human-engineered craft rather than an extraterrestrial object. The conversation delves into the implications of secretive technologies and the ongoing struggle for government transparency regarding UAPs.

Key takeaways

• 1Tic Tac UFO may be the result of human engineering rather than extraterrestrial origins.
• 2The 2004 USS Nimitz encounter involved U.S. military personnel observing UFOs displaying physics-defying maneuvers.
• 3The possibility of electrogravitic propulsion systems being used in advanced technology.
• 4The term 'drone impunity' may explain how classified programs operate undetected.
• 5There is a tension between public demand for disclosure and government obfuscation about UAP technology.

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Transcript excerpt

Well, it has been quite a week in the world of UFO, UAP reality, and I've not seen the Need to Know podcast so centered on the middle of a controversy since David Grush back in 2023. I opened last week's Need to Know by asking two questions just straight out of the box saying, what is happening and what is really going on? And man, I got to tell you, I got that part right, but not the way I thought. First, a little background. Ross Coulthard and I have done 65 episodes of Need to Know now since we started, I believe, in late 21. In the first 64 episodes, we would usually talk to each other a little bit at the beginning. We'd either, you know, have a text or an email or maybe a signal chat or maybe a phone call. Not much. We usually just kind of do it on the fly, but we sort of have a basic plan for what we're going to be talking about. That did not happen on number 65 last week. In that show, Ross told me three things in that show that I was completely unprepared to hear him say because we hadn't spoken about it. And they're pretty, pretty big things. Number one, he said he thinks the U.S. has had an anti-gravitics breakthrough maybe 40 or 50 years ago. Number two, he believes the drone flap that we've been living through is Chinese technology and that it's so advanced they could ground our entire air force if they wanted to. And then there's number three. Just when he thought he was probably throwing out enough controversy for a dozen episodes. We're about 50 minutes into this thing. And Ross says, and I'm, you know what? ...

Excerpt from Need to Know (Coulthart/Zabel), Jul 14, 2025. Rights remain with the original creators. Hear the full episode at the source.