Lenval Logan: “We’ve Seen Better” | Grusch, UAP Footage & The Phenom App

That UFO PodcastOct 9, 2026

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Summary

Former UAP Task Force member and retired U.S. Air Force intelligence analyst Lenval Logan reacts to David Grusch's latest claims on Joe Rogan and reveals what was discussed inside the task force, including footage he says showed a huge object moving underwater. He argues that recently released government UAP footage is not the best material available, and he shares a strange personal encounter with a mysterious blue figure that he had been reluctant to discuss before. Later, Matt Stevens presents the Phenom app, a citizen-science platform meant to verify UAP sightings with sensor data and a clear chain of custody as AI-generated fakes become harder to spot.

Key takeaways

  • 1Lenval Logan, a former UAP Task Force member and retired U.S. Air Force intelligence analyst, responds to David Grusch's new claims made on Joe Rogan's podcast.
  • 2Logan says he saw extraordinary footage while on the task force, including a huge object moving underwater.
  • 3Logan says the recently released government UAP footage is not the best material the government has.
  • 4Logan discusses his involvement with Jason Sands and Joe Rogan, and what had and had not been vetted at the time.
  • 5Logan describes a personal experience involving a mysterious blue figure that he had previously avoided discussing publicly.
  • 6Matt Stevens presents the Phenom app, which aims to document UAP sightings with verifiable video, sensor data and chain of custody to counter AI-generated fakes.

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That UFO Podcast, “Lenval Logan: “We’ve Seen Better” | Grusch, UAP Footage & The Phenom App,” Oct 9, 2026. Indexed by Fringe Index: https://fringeindex.com/item/lenval-logan-weve-seen-better-grusch-uap-footage-the-phenom-app. Original: https://audioboom.com/posts/8962451