Joe Rogan Experience #2295 - Scott Payne

Summary

In this episode, retired FBI Special Agent Scott Payne shares his experience investigating domestic terrorism, drug trafficking, and organized crime. He discusses his undercover work exposing extremist groups in America, particularly focusing on Nazi organizations. Payne's insights shed light on the complexities of law enforcement's battle against hate and extremism.

Key takeaways

• 1Scott Payne: Retired FBI Special Agent with 28 years of experience in law enforcement.
• 2Co-author of "Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America’s Nazis."
• 3Subject of the podcast "White Hot Hate: Agent Pale Horse" created with journalist Michelle Shephard.
• 4Investigated organized crime including drug trafficking, human trafficking, and domestic terrorism.

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Transcript excerpt

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. Um, you had a crazy life, man. Like a really crazy life. You spent so to get everybody up to speed right from the beginning, you spent 25 years undercover working for the FBI in the clan, Nazi organizations, and biker gangs and then some. Yes, sir. What a crazy crazy life that is. What first of all, how did you get how did you first get started doing that? Uh, good question. I grew up in South Carolina. Um, played ball, all that stuff. I I I was always kind of a I mean, if you look back, not trying to be cocky, whatever, because that's not it. You've had plenty of people on this show that are complete badasses. Um, but I was kind of a bully of bullies. I didn't I always looked out I like the underdog. Um, I bounced in college. Uh, so I was already learning that gift of gab um and fight techniques and stuff like that. And then I got I became a cop because when I was in college, I took a course. I'm taking electives. I went to college so I'd have four more years to figure out what I was going to do cuz I didn't know what I was doing. Me too. Except partying. Except, you know, I did three years. I was good at partying. Um but uh I hit an elective that was criminal justice and man, I really liked it. Um psychology was always a strong thing for me, but it took a backseat and I ended up coming out with a major in criminal justice and a minor in psychology. ...

Excerpt from The Joe Rogan Experience, Mar 27, 2025. Rights remain with the original creators. Hear the full episode at the source.