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Summary

Former CNN en Español host Ismael Cala discusses his book 'The Art of Listening to Yourself,' describing how he overcame a family history of suicide and mental illness in Cuba through meditation, mentors, and intuition. He introduces the 'piñata mind,' his idea that our minds are stuffed with beliefs and fears put there by others. Host Cliff Dunning opens the episode by arguing that the Durupinar formation near Mount Ararat, recently promoted as Noah's Ark, is just a natural rock formation.

Key takeaways

  • 1Host Cliff Dunning says the Christian Broadcasting Network is funding ground-penetrating radar and scans of the boat-shaped formation below Mount Ararat, a site examined by David Fasold about 30 years ago
  • 2Dunning cites Assyriologist Irving Finkel as saying the Mesopotamian flood boat was a round or box-like vessel made of reeds, and that Zecharia Sitchin misread cuneiform texts about the Anunnaki
  • 3David Fasold's out-of-print book 'The Ark of Noah' describes large stones near the site, once thought to be anchors, that are now considered markers
  • 4Cala describes the 'piñata mind' as the conditioned mind filled by adults with limiting beliefs, and claims most of the mind exists as energy and consciousness rather than in the brain
  • 5Cala names his mentors as Deepak Chopra (Primordial Sound Meditation), Don Miguel Ruiz ('The Four Agreements'), Joe Dispenza, Tony Robbins and Marianne Williamson, and says he has visited India 18 times
  • 6Cala calls intuition 'divine intelligence' that brings information from the quantum field, and tests it with a three-step Spanish method: sentir (feel), soltar (let go), sonreír (smile)

Transcript excerpt

Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. So last week I let the cat out of the bag regarding the Noah's Ark formation in Turkey, Mount Ararat. just below the foothills. And a lot of. People responded and said, well, you know, this Christian broadcasting network is spending what appears to be hundreds of thousands of dollars to bring in new equipment, not only ground penetrating radar, but scanning equipment that can detect wood and other natural material. Well, This was already done, as I mentioned, in that program by David Fasshold almost 30 years ago. And he was curious himself. And by the way, if you haven't had a chance to look at the graphic, the hand-drawn image of the boat that he thought was a boat, you can go to Facebook and see it there. yellowed paper now, but it shows his detailed investigations of what he thought was a boat. Now, the thing is, he was looking at an aerial shot taken in 1959 of this landform that has a very distinct shape of a boat. But as we've heard from everyone from Fasshold to Irving Finkel, It's not the Noah's Ark. And I don't know how people are going to react to the Christian Broadcasting Network's constant promotion of this spectacle, because I guess they're taking in donations and money to pay for additional imagery, imaging. Now, the latest imaging that they have come up with is What they think are pockets of space could be rooms, could be space created by water at one time. We don't know. It's funny, though, because if you go to UK Daily, the online newspaper, they have gone forward with some huge speculations that this is an actual ship of some kind. ...

Excerpt from Earth Ancients, Oct 7, 2026. Rights remain with the original creators. Hear the full episode at the source.

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Earth Ancients, “Ismael Cala: The Art of Listening to Yourself,” Oct 7, 2026. Indexed by Fringe Index: https://fringeindex.com/item/ismael-cala-the-art-of-listening-to-yourself. Original: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/ismael-cala-the-art-of-listening-to-yourself--75612338