Associative Remote Viewing with Debra Lynne Katz (4K Reboot)

Summary

Psychologist Jeffrey Mishlove talks with Dr. Debra Lynne Katz, co-author of a nearly 800-page book on Associative Remote Viewing (ARV), a method that uses psychic perception of future photos to predict sports, election, and market outcomes. Katz describes striking successes, such as early ARV teams making over $100,000, alongside costly failures like Project Firefly, which lost about $55,000 in Forex trades. She also warns that outside groups are now recruiting remote viewers under punitive non-disclosure agreements, threatening the field's tradition of open research.

Key takeaways

• 1Debra Lynne Katz and John Knowles co-authored 'Associative Remote Viewing: The Art and Science of Predicting Outcomes for Sports, Politics, Finance and the Lottery' (nearly 800 pages)
• 2Russell Targ and Hal Puthoff were among the first to make over $100,000 with ARV before a 'decline effect' set in
• 3Researcher Greg Kay ran a 13-year solo ARV study that yielded over $100,000 by combining psychic data with logic
• 4A year-long ARV dream project using Dale Graff's method (Graff was a director of the DIA's Stargate program) scored about 50% overall but produced a 400% profit increase; Katz personally hit about 74%
• 5Lori Williams reportedly had nearly 100% accuracy on her first 100 trials, which collapsed after she learned the results were used for wagering, possibly due to beliefs from a poverty-focused Christian group she belonged to
• 6Project Firefly, run through Marty Rosenblatt's Applied Precognition Project, involved 60 investors using the Kelly wagering strategy and lost about $55,000 in Forex trading
• 7Katz claims a group with a 'questionable background' is recruiting remote viewers under NDAs carrying $250,000 penalties, aiming to own proprietary methods

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Transcript excerpt

It's keeping them neutral, the emotion out of it, the analytical part out of it. And then you can take remote viewers and it doesn't matter what kind of task they're doing, you can assign the same process to, again, it's been done with horse racing and with the presidential elections, many different things. And it's almost better if the viewer doesn't know what the project's about. So they don't even need to know, is this for trading or is this for horse racing? They're just told to describe a photo in the future. But of course, remote viewers are curious people. And so that sometimes gets to be an issue. You know, what is this project about? What are people doing with the information? Are they wagering? And then you start to look at, are there implications behind the scenes? Keep watching to learn more. New Thinking Allowed is presented by the California Institute for Human Science, a fully accredited university offering distant learning graduate degrees that focus on mind, body, and spirit. The topics that we cover here. We are particularly excited to announce new degrees emphasizing parapsychology and the paranormal. Visit their website at cihs.edu. The New Thinking Allowed Magazine, Issue 10, on UFOs and UAP is now ready for free download. And you can also order beautiful printed copies. Go to newthinkingallowed.org. Book 4 in the New Thinking Allowed Dialogue Series is Charles T. Tartt, 70 Years of Exploring Consciousness and Parapsychology, now available on Amazon. Thinking Allowed Conversations on the Leading Edge of Knowledge and Discovery, with psychologist Jeffrey Mishlove Hello and welcome. I'm Jeffrey Mishlove. Today our topic is Associative Remote Viewing. My guest is Dr. Debra Lynn Katz, who recently received her doctoral degree in psychology from the University of West Georgia. ...

Excerpt from New Thinking Allowed, Oct 15, 2026. Rights remain with the original creators. Hear the full episode at the source.