A New Wave of UFO News - Why They’re Spying on Whistleblowers

Summary

Investigative journalists Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp return to discuss a chaotic summer of UFO news, warning that a flood of exaggerated claims may be a deliberate strategy to exhaust public interest. They detail Robert Bigelow's private meeting with President Trump, the government's ongoing release of UAP files including rare FBI 302 witness statements, and newly surfaced details about a Lockheed facility allegedly holding crash materials. They also highlight a career CIA officer's congressional testimony that the CIA illegally spied on ODNI investigators and the whistleblowers they contacted.

Key takeaways

• 1Robert Bigelow met with Trump for about an hour and 20 minutes in early February, urging him to confirm UFO reality; three to four weeks later the government began releasing UAP files, now in five batches including FBI 302 witness statements.
• 2Bigelow had negotiated with a Lockheed vice president to transfer crash materials (not a full craft) from a Southern California facility to Bigelow Aerospace (BAASS) in exchange for something, but the CIA allegedly stepped in and blocked the deal.
• 3A career CIA operations officer on assignment to ODNI's Director's Initiatives Group (DIG) testified that the CIA illegally monitored DIG personnel's computers and phones and their contact with whistleblowers, and called for a new Church Committee.
• 4In the 2019 West Coast drone swarms, a roughly 14-foot circular object followed the USS Omaha for an hour; FBI agents who boarded the suspected Chinese vessel Bass Strait reportedly ruled out Russia and China.
• 5The GAO opened a formal performance audit of AARO (announced March 25, 2026) after two GAO investigators, nicknamed the 'alien girls,' visited more than 13 military bases asking how UAP reports are handled.
• 6A December 2025 incursion, believed to be at White Sands, was allegedly provoked by a 'luring' operation that moved nuclear assets; the hosts reject claims of psionic shootdowns.

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Transcript excerpt

It's been a really busy uh summer for UFO news, and I'm using air quotes around the word news because some of it is a highly questionable veracity. The closer you get to the goodies, the greater the push back becomes. And I think that's sort of what we're seeing here now. It's like flooding the zone, leaking stuff. So, every day is a new headline which become more unbelievable than the day before. And eventually the general public's going to go, "Oh, look at the time. I gotta go." I see you've had a few huge interviews with Robert Bigalow. I was aware that he was going to meet with Trump. He had asked me to help prepare her some material to take along for that that meeting. And we can't Bigalow does not claim credit for what happened next. But 3 4 weeks later, suddenly Trump starts releasing all this stuff. that that fifth batch, the fact that they have released all these 302s, I can tell you as a journalist who has worked with the FBI and and against the FBI trying to get information out of them for decades on public corruption, police corruption. Getting a 302 is hard. This is weaponized. Yeah, we're back. Jeremy, what the hell have you been doing? man, you know, um, not sometimes you just got to kind of step back until you have something to say. And that's kind of the mode that that I've been in recently is, man, this UFO land has gotten really wild. And no, the government didn't get to me. No, you know, nothing like that. ...

Excerpt from Weaponized, Sep 2, 2026. Rights remain with the original creators. Hear the full episode at the source.