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Lance Baker & Mat Dragonstone | Reiki, Talismans, & The Pleiades Pendulum Set

The Higherside ChatsSep 7, 2026

Reiki healer and pendulum expert Lance Baker joins astrological magician Matt Dragonstone to discuss a talismanic Pleiades pendulum set they crafted, along with the history of pendulum divination and Lance's claim that Reiki cured a migraine that lasted nearly a decade. The conversation covers why the Seven Sisters appear in cultures worldwide, how talismans are timed to astrology, and whether practicing magic is dangerous, following the early deaths of occultists Gordon White and Tracy Twyman. Host Greg Carlwood closes by describing how he consecrated the pendulum and tried to contact his late friend Gordon White, reporting a mix of hits and misses.